Onde está o avião da Malasya Airlines? e o que se passou com o MH17?

[Diácono Luís]

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http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/internaciona...0013-4073.html

[Ace]

http://banoosh.com/blog/2014/04/08/m...sengers-alive/

[MLima]

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/no...rasto165124010

[Diácono Luís]

Tópico Aberto originalmente por MLima

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/no...rasto165124010

Uma coisa parece ser óbvia! Pelo menos ao princípio não foi um acidente...

[Diácono Luís]

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MH 370 - a conspiracy theory.

Have you heard of this conspiracy theory re the disappearance of MH 370? The story goes like this:

The Americans are withdrawing from the Afghanistan, one of their command and control system (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Talebans when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Talebans ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seals personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.

What the Talebans want is money. They want to sell the system to the Russians or the Chinese. The Russians are too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it.

Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile the Americans have engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they are determined to intercept and recapture the cargo.

The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the Americans will not hijack or harm civilians. So MH370 is the perfect carrier.

There are 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operations. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could be among them.

When MH370 is about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, one American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.

How the AWAC can do it ? Remember 911 incident ? After the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all the Boeing could be remote controlled by ground control tower. The same remote control system used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones.

The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite.

The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react professionally.

The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anambas, South India and then landed at the Maldives (some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refuelled and continued its flight to Garcia Deigo, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen. They believe only dead person will not talk. The MH370 with dead passengers was air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot.

The American has put up a good show. First diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australian is the co-actor.

The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists.

Don't believe the story? I don't expect you do but let's wait and see how the episode unveils itself. Or perhaps it will never be known until the next Snowden emerges.

[Paulo Bandeira]

Tópico Aberto originalmente por Diácono Luís

Mais uma teoria...

MH 370 - a conspiracy theory.

Have you heard of this conspiracy theory re the disappearance of MH 370? The story goes like this:

The Americans are withdrawing from the Afghanistan, one of their command and control system (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Talebans when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Talebans ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seals personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.

What the Talebans want is money. They want to sell the system to the Russians or the Chinese. The Russians are too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it.

Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile the Americans have engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they are determined to intercept and recapture the cargo.

The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the Americans will not hijack or harm civilians. So MH370 is the perfect carrier.

There are 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operations. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could be among them.

When MH370 is about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, one American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.

How the AWAC can do it ? Remember 911 incident ? After the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all the Boeing could be remote controlled by ground control tower. The same remote control system used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones.

The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite.

The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react professionally.

The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anambas, South India and then landed at the Maldives (some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refuelled and continued its flight to Garcia Deigo, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen. They believe only dead person will not talk. The MH370 with dead passengers was air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot.

The American has put up a good show. First diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australian is the co-actor.

The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists.

Don't believe the story? I don't expect you do but let's wait and see how the episode unveils itself. Or perhaps it will never be known until the next Snowden emerges.

Agora sim, estamos a chegar lá. Falta mencionar o facto de dois membros da segurança (ex-US Navy Seals) que viajavam no navio porta-contentores da companhia Maersk (MV Marsk Alabama) terem sido encontrados mortos após a carga suspeita ter sido transferida para o avião do voo MH370. Causa da morte, falha respiratória, pois claro...

[Diácono Luís]

Eu que acho estranho é andarem à procura do avião no mar...

Está mais que visto... que a coisa levou outra volta... que nunca se chegará a saber...

Ou melhor, talvez se saiba, como o relatório da Comissão Warren, e a teoria da bala única...

[Paulo Bandeira]

Eu que acho estranho é andarem à procura do avião no mar...

É dos livros. Pura (e cara) encenação. Manobra de diversão para ganhar tempo. Entretem-se o público durante o tempo que for possível e com a cumplicidade da imprensa facilmente manipulada, até se encontrar outra solução.

Está mais que visto... que a coisa levou outra volta... que nunca se chegará a saber...

Sem dúvida. Acho que já não precisamos de nenhum "relatório oficial" para perebermos o que aconteceu. Provas, ainda não há, mas a verdade acaba sempre por se saber. É só uma questão de tempo. De mentira em mentira se chega à verdade.

Ou melhor, talvez se saiba, como o relatório da Comissão Warren, e a teoria da bala única...

E o caso do Golfo de Tonkin (1964), e o caso do USS Libety (1967), e a October Surprise (1980), e a Comissão 9/11 (2001), etc. etc.

[JCB_XX]

Estranho nem se darem ao trabalho de enfiar com um avião pintado no fundo do mar e trazerem umas peças para cima.

É mesmo à descarada que fazem estas "avarias"!

[Paulo Bandeira]

Estranho nem se darem ao trabalho de enfiar com um avião pintado no fundo do mar e trazerem umas peças para cima.

É mesmo à descarada que fazem estas "avarias"!

Isso ainda pode acontecer, embora não seja fácil passar o crivo de um exame forênsico minimamente credível, como por exemplo, os "Part Numbers" dos componentes do avião, o estado e a identificação dos corpos dos passageiros e tripulação que viessem a ser encontrados, etc. Não me parece que se arrisquem a essa exposição. Enquanto o avião, ou destroços, não aparecerem não há necessidade de explicar mais nada, fica só o mistério no ar.